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maylander739
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On the drivers side my wipers have been squeking, thought it was the blade but turns out its somethere near the mechanism. I'm thinking of taking it apart and spraying some WD40 or GT85 on some bits. It sounds like rubber, but is gettig louder, anybody have this problem before?

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No but I often have a similar noise that emits from the passenger seat - but only when the wife is in the car..........

I'd say WD40 may well do the trick. If it doesn't, you can get some special rubber lubricant made by holts. It's only in a small WD40 like tin so it's not dear - also great for squeeky window rubbers for the front/side windows.

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Matt/Rich, I HAD the [b]EXACT[/b] same problem. squeaking from the drivers side mechanism.

I stripped it down and found out that the swively hinge bit was almost seized solid. I took it off (could hardly move it with my bare hands….!) and soaked it overnight but it was no better in the morning. Dan (Gogo) put a post on as he was off to a scrappies and he got me a replacement part.

Hey presto – no more squeaking…………………… :hello1:


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how much did you pay? was it for the full mechanism?

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Think I sent Dan a £5er inc P&P, twas just for the hinge bit itself.

Mazda will want over £30 (drivers and passenger side = same price)


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Ok, this is what i've done, taken it all apart, but can't get the little hinge bit off by itself?? Theres no screws, and didn't want to just pull it. So i thought you meant the whole mechanism (before i read what you wrote), so couldn't get that off the motor either??

NEED HELP......CAR IN BITS.........PLEASE HELP ME

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I'm pretty sure you can just tap it about with a spanner ( to loosen ) and that should let you remove it, clean, grease, wd40 or whatever you may want to do with it! #;o)


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ok, i'll go and have a go at that after some food.

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[quote="maylander739"]ok, i'll go and have a go at that after some food.[/quote]

... keep us posted! :cheers:


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Update, the one in the scrappy is rusted away, so have just ordered the whole linkage thing for £64 including vat.


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Does anybody know how to get it off the motor, whenever i turn the nut, the motor turns as well.

So cars off the road for the next couple of days as its raining a lot in york

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Maylander, which bit on yours is knackered ? I have the full arm from motor all up to driver side, only thing thats missing is the bit I sold to Stu.

To get it off motor you just have to undo the nut - if its stuck then jam the arm with some wood and then try and undo - it shouldnt be too tight.

If you get stuck let us know -

And the bits at the end just pop off the arm with ... a little excessive force lol ... I thought I had broken it lol

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yeah i did brake the first one. I really need the car up and running, as i've no other transport. They said they'd get it for wednesday. The whole thing isn't much more than the driver alone, less than a tenner extra.

Thanks anyway mate.

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oh, and i managed to get it off.

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Glad to hear you got it sorted :D

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Damm sorry Matt, been busy.

To remove the link arms they are like tiny ball joints. a flat-bladed screwdriver prises it apart...... :cwm10:


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thats ok.

thats what i tried, but broke it anyway.....i must be really strong :drunken:

ordered the whole thing now anyway, just cant go anyway till wednesday.

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wish i had seen this yesterday i could have saved you the agro. i replaced my whole linkage a couple of months ago. to disconect the linkage from the arm of the motor (ball) i used a pair of pliers and rotated the white plastic bit (knuckle) away from the ball very gently until it popped off. dont get rid of any of the bolts as you will have to reuse them!

you get the whole thing already made up and all that you have to do is put it into the gap, tighten up all of the bolts for the mounting brackets, which was probarbly the bit that siezed up and was squecking on you old one, was on mine, and then when its all done up gently pop the knuckle back onto the ball of the motor, no need to take the motor out! took me about 10 mins! dead easy!

any more questions let me know

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i also sheared off on of the mounting screws, that was seized as well.

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Does this pic help? :drunken: [img]http://hometown.aol.co.uk/SJakielski5/Forum+Pics/Wipers.JPG[/img]


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WAHEY!!! Fitted the whole linkage today. Took quite a while to figure out a few things, but now i'm an expert in changing it. Linking it to the motor in the right position was the hardest thing. No more squeking.

Picture of the old seazed mechanism
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Got a new one from the scrapyard, but the top had rusted away on closer inspection
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Middle part was fine
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mmmm think i will grease mine up this weekend.


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probably worth it, maybe clean it with some wd40, then grease it?

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Eeeek, sorry a bit late in on this, but about a year ago I also had the dreaded wiper squeak from exactly the same place (and I changed the blades first too!).

Not sure if it's designed that way, I managed to disassemble the siezed pivot. From memory I recall taking off the rubber/plastic shroud just under the splines, then using a nylon mallet to hammer the pivot into the body, then used a thin drift to hammer it until it came out the other side. Emery paper to clean up the bearing faces and get a wee clearance, grease it, then back in it goes.

Prehaps I was just lucky with mine, but might be worth a try for anyone else with wiper squeak, before having to part with cash.
Just sorry I wasn't on the ball a bit earlier for you Maylander.

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I hada go at taking the wiper arms off last summer, but couldn't. How do they come off? Do you just undo the nuts and pull them off?


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Yeah, remove the nut (10mm I think) and pull/wiggle the wiper arm off the splines. First put a strip of masking tape on the windscreen along the edge of the wiper blade so you can put the arm back on in the right place. An open end spanner between the arm and pivot might make a good lever if it won't budge.

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[quote="Rob"]Yeah, remove the nut (10mm I think) Rob[/quote]

Close Rob, the wiper nut is 12mm and wiper hinge is 10mm :thumbright:


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Cheers guys, I'll have a go - another thing for the list!! (once the house is decorated :roll: nag, nag, nag!! :evil5:)


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That's almost a relief actually Stu! If I was remembering spanner sizes a year after doing the job, I would start worrying just how sad I was getting!!!

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