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dhumpherys
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 30, 2005 1:27 pm 
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Hi

This is the first time I have used this forum so apologies if this question has been asked before.

A few months ago an extremely funny, drunk youth thought it would be worth while ripping off the passenger wing mirror and taking it home with him ( I have to move to a better area!)

Anyway I managed to get a replacement from a scrappy and fitted it without the advantage of a workshop manual (not the only one to be miffed at this I see)

Since then, if the window is fully up then the window seems to sit a few mm too high and, unless you actually press against the window as you close the door the top edge of the window sits outside the trim around the roof. With a pressure sensitive alarm fitted the gap allows just enough room for a gust of wind to get in and set it off. I then have to get back in the car and run the window down and up again to get it to sit right.

My question is ... Is there a fix for this that someone knows about.

I'll be ripping off the passenger door panel this weekend to have a look at the door locking mechanism which has also stopped working so any suggestions before then would be great.

Cheers

Dave


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djcritter
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Think this is in the wrong section but hey,

Is your window rattling loads as well, my drivers window is the same as you have explained the reason my window rattles is because the grey plastic discs that sit at the front of the window inside the door which rest on the front window are missing.

i think this also means that when you do the window up it rolls forward a bit because its missing them plastic things.


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foye
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yeh both of my front windows rattle to. The plastic things are not missing though but i think theyre just worn.


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dhumpherys
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Thanks for the quick response guys. I'll have a look into that at the weekend and let you know how I get on :)


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DanG
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yeah i noticed this last night on my car, after sum1 puttin my window threw and replacing it i could her a twistling noise only wen i pulled over i noticed that the window dosnt sit flush to the roof :/


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dhumpherys
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Hi

Managed to get the window sorted. Thanks for the advice

There are two plastic 'L' shaped stops bolted inside the door at the top. One towards the mirror, one towards the handle. You have to remove the door panel to see them but by loosening the bolts slightly and tapping them down slightly you can get the window to wind itself up to a height that slides under the trim on the roof. It's a bit hit and miss but after two or three attempts I have managed to get the door to close properly.

What I now need is a supplier of a cheap motor unit for the central locking.

I got it undone at the weekend and it looks like the actual motor in the unit is knackered.

I have contacted the local dealer in Nottingham and, I either explained it wrong or he wants to sell me the whole door but he is quoting £117.25 !!!!!

I know people say Japanese spares are expensive but that can't be right can it ???


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323H
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any pics of these placcy bits? never notced em before


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fastmike
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[quote="dhumpherys"]
What I now need is a supplier of a cheap motor unit for the central locking.

I got it undone at the weekend and it looks like the actual motor in the unit is knackered.

I have contacted the local dealer in Nottingham and, I either explained it wrong or he wants to sell me the whole door but he is quoting £117.25 !!!!!

I know people say Japanese spares are expensive but that can't be right can it ???[/quote]

Read here: http://www.club323f.com/club323f/forum/ ... hp4?t=4220

Only a standard motor however check the contacts havent corroded or wiring failed first, this motor is extremely reliable.


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dhumpherys
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:D Deep Joy!! :D

Managed to get a new door lock motor from a scrappy round the corner £15! Had to remove it myself from the sad tangle that was a beautiful silver f but a little inconvenience can save you a wad. Still don't know if it works yet so might be a bit premature with the celebrations

Will try to fit it tomorrow night and take some Pics of the window stops while the door panel is off and post them up.

Cheers

Dave


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dhumpherys
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Hi Guys

Got some pics of Plastic stops for window but limited computer literacy stops me from posting up

Can anyone give us a clue?

Something to do with [/img] [img]I%20guess%20but%20buggered%20if%20I%20can%20work%20it%20out[/img]


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JAM
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yeah, upload your images to a site such as www.photobucket.com . Then Copy the IMG Url into your post on here and we should see your image!!

Easy Peasy!!

:lol:

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dhumpherys
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Thanks JAM

Hope I've done this right. These photos will hopefully help in showing location of window stops on top edge of door (important bits have been arrowed)

[img]http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a260/dhumphreys/door1.jpg[/img]
[img]http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a260/dhumphreys/door2.jpg[/img]
[img]http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a260/dhumphreys/door3.jpg[/img]


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JAM
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Nearly there mate, Altho It seems you've copied and pasted the wrong bit up- Could be my error or yours :lol:

Basically under the image in your photobucket gallery there's 3 boxes.

You want the information out of the bottom one- I cant remember what it is tho off the top of my head!! l

8)


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drunkenmunky
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yes here it's telling me 'the page cannot be found'... I'm reallly curious to see those photos!

by the way, i managed to remove the door panel.. thanks mate. 8)


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dhumpherys
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Looks like I've sorted this photo thang ( all be it the photos are Heeeeuuuugge!!!!)

Hope this helps

[img]http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a260/dhumphreys/Door3.jpg[/img]
[img]http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a260/dhumphreys/Door2.jpg[/img]
[img]http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a260/dhumphreys/Door1.jpg[/img]


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323H
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credit wheres its due mate, iv had the car a year today and ever since iv got it iv been tryin to solve this problem, nailed it first time, many, many thanks

all hail dhumpherys :lol:


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foye
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does this process actually stop the windows from rattling when theyre fully down?


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essex-lad
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doesn't stop them rattling just stops them going up to far... i found this out when i removed the windows for tinting :bounce:


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