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| Author: | Shaggy [ Fri Feb 25, 2005 11:59 am ] |
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Has anyone ever removed the power steering from their car? or knows how it is done? cheers |
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| Author: | tucker101uk [ Fri Feb 25, 2005 12:02 pm ] |
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why would you want to? |
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| Author: | Ronin (Adam) [ Fri Feb 25, 2005 12:06 pm ] |
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why would you want to? lmao |
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| Author: | Mark.T [ Fri Feb 25, 2005 12:07 pm ] |
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Why would you want to? |
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| Author: | GOGOBROOM [ Fri Feb 25, 2005 12:09 pm ] |
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Why would you want power steering is the question I would ask ..... The only thing its good for is low speed and parking ... when you are driving at speed you getter a better feel for what the car is doing without power steering... You young lads dont know what it was like when cars were cars and not like they are now... too many electrical gadgets and stuff lol ... In answer to your question Ben.. I dont know but you could loose some weight off the car if you could :P |
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| Author: | Shaggy [ Fri Feb 25, 2005 12:16 pm ] |
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[quote="GOGOBROOM"]Why would you want power steering is the question I would ask ..... The only thing its good for is low speed and parking ... when you are driving at speed you getter a better feel for what the car is doing without power steering... [/quote] yes respect sir. Did you know power steering was designed for girls? And boys with thin wrists? I hate it so so much. I would love to rip it out or have some oil taken from the system so it wasnt as "girly" Ben 
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| Author: | Smotter [ Fri Feb 25, 2005 1:15 pm ] |
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Before you decide to rip out the power steering compressor, roll down a hill with the engine off and try to steer. The ratios in the steering box are set for power steering - withhout it, it's almost impossible to turn the wheel ! So part of the project would have to include replacement of the steering rack with a non-power-steering version with the standard ratios ... |
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| Author: | Mark.T [ Fri Feb 25, 2005 2:02 pm ] |
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[quote="GOGOBROOM"]Why would you want power steering is the question I would ask ..... [/quote] Spoil sport!
You wait 'til your track session Dan - you'll be glad of power steering mate!! I'll book them back to back for you if you like!! 
Power steering generally gets less assisted the faster you go as far I know. I drove a Proton Persona with power steering and scared myself silly at 80mph going round a bend on a dual carriageway. The steering was still so assisted, you couldn't feel the road - the 323 is waaaaay different. Mark |
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| Author: | Shaggy [ Fri Feb 25, 2005 2:06 pm ] |
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looks like lots of £££ then.. |
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| Author: | Mark.T [ Fri Feb 25, 2005 2:14 pm ] |
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Yeah, I'd say so. A better way to get a similar effect is to put a smaller steering wheel on. You'll loose your airbag though unless you spend a few hundred on one. Mark |
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| Author: | Smotter [ Fri Feb 25, 2005 2:33 pm ] |
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[quote="Smotter"]... roll down a hill with the engine off and try to steer ...[/quote] Oops - I'd better mention, if you do try this, don't try it on a steep hill 'cause without the engine running, there's no vacuum to the brake booster, so there's practically no brakes, either ... 
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| Author: | GOGOBROOM [ Fri Feb 25, 2005 2:54 pm ] |
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I do remember reading an early article on the BA saying that the power steering was good and still gave good feel and response at speed.. which is true, but I still think you would get better feel from the car without it lol.... Nope dont book back to back lmao I dunno wether my car will make it round one session at a time at mo.. still got to try sort out my rear n/s suspension prob thats gone rusty :P |
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| Author: | Mark.T [ Fri Feb 25, 2005 7:28 pm ] |
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Mark |
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| Author: | Pedro_MX3 [ Fri Feb 25, 2005 7:50 pm ] |
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to remove the power steering you would need an new auxilliary belt (shorter, no PS pulley) and a non powersteering steering rack, i dont think they actually make BA's without PS do they? im not sure if u can run the system with a dry rack and just disconnect the PS pump pulley with a shorter belt? Sounds like something u'd have to try... maybe a cheap MOT faliure for a test?? :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: |
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| Author: | Roadster Robbie [ Mon Feb 28, 2005 12:26 am ] |
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Disconecting power steering on a car on which it was standard is an MOT failure, Section 2.3 "power steering" in The MOT Inspection Manual, reason for rejection 1.a. "Power steering malfunctioning or [b]inoperative[/b]" "[b]Note:[/b] If power steering is [b]optional[/b] on the vehicle but has been disconnected in such a way that there is no adverse effect on the steering that is not a reason for rejection." |
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| Author: | andym323 [ Mon Feb 28, 2005 12:47 am ] |
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you'll appresiate the PS on the track, first time i did karts i forgot to wear gloves and couldn't hold anything for half an hour afterwards! i find it great for low speed handling, great in Brum for zoom zooming round muppet traffic, mini cans, modded corsas and the like, but... i do alot of m-way miles too, and te PS can get a bit twitchy at high speed, especially in a side wind, never scary tho, not like my 306 TDi, never again 
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