if I remember correctly, the fog lamp tell tail is on the dash and the switch will/should illuminate with side lamps on. Doesn't answer you question I know but it may help point you in the right direction
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| Author: | Ronin (Adam) [ Sun Nov 21, 2004 8:41 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Front Fog light switch |
I got one from a scrappy but the fitments are different. (from a different model). I've rewired the switch (there's basically four wires) and when I connect the two BLUE WIRES to the dash the FRONT FOG INDICATOR lights up in the dash display So these wires are sorted, but there's two left. These are RED- and I assumed that they illuminate the actual FOG LIGHT SWITCH and powered the FRONT FOG LIGHTS (when switched on). But the switch isn't illuminating. Will the FOG LIGHT SWITCH only illuminate when I have FRONT FOG LIGHTS installed? or does it sound like my little switch bulb is knackered? Thanks for reading this, any thoughts appreciated... [-o< [-o< [-o< |
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| Author: | Roadster Robbie [ Tue Nov 23, 2004 12:49 am ] |
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if I remember correctly, the fog lamp tell tail is on the dash and the switch will/should illuminate with side lamps on. Doesn't answer you question I know but it may help point you in the right direction
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| Author: | Ronin (Adam) [ Tue Nov 23, 2004 2:52 am ] |
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Hey thanks for the reply! My rear foglight switch illuminates and the rear fog is installed. The front foglight switch does not illuminate and I havn't installed front fogs yet. Coincidence? or knackered switch bulb? I've got a bad feeling that no-one actually knows... 
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| Author: | Mark.T [ Tue Nov 23, 2004 9:11 am ] |
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Try taking the bulb out of the rear foggie and see if the switch still lights up. Mark |
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| Author: | Ronin (Adam) [ Tue Nov 23, 2004 1:01 pm ] |
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Good idea. I never thought of that 
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| Author: | Roadster Robbie [ Tue Nov 23, 2004 9:38 pm ] |
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Had a 1.5 323F in today with fog lamps (must be accessory ones) and the switch didn't illuminate in that with the lights on but the dash tell tail came on when the fogs were switched on 
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| Author: | Ronin (Adam) [ Tue Nov 23, 2004 10:26 pm ] |
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thats weird There's a bulb in the switch tho. Ah well Guess I'll just have to do without it. I'm beginning to think the bulbs knackered tho because if i connect the bulbs - to its + wires the whole dash loses illumination, meaning that there is power going thru them
Thanks for your help |
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| Author: | tucker101uk [ Tue Nov 23, 2004 10:34 pm ] |
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adam - elaborate on what you are connecting... you may simply be shorting something out here... |
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| Author: | Ronin (Adam) [ Tue Nov 23, 2004 11:28 pm ] |
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Don't worry tucker I know what I'm doing. I shorted them on purpose to see if there's power going thru. When I let go the dash comes back on. I just wanted to know if you need your fog lights actually installed for the switch illumination to come on but it looks as though my bulb was gone when i got it. |
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| Author: | Ronin (Adam) [ Sat Nov 27, 2004 2:51 pm ] |
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I got the switch installed but does anyone know where the connections are (for the front fogs lights) in the engine bay? I have a vague idea but I really need to be sure! |
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| Author: | Roadster Robbie [ Sat Nov 27, 2004 8:38 pm ] |
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Whats your VIN, I'll check a wiring diagram for you Before you set your car on fire 
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| Author: | Ronin (Adam) [ Sat Nov 27, 2004 8:40 pm ] |
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I'll just get it... |
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| Author: | Ronin (Adam) [ Sat Nov 27, 2004 8:42 pm ] |
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JMZBA145201530973 |
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| Author: | Mark.T [ Sun Nov 28, 2004 2:32 am ] |
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Behind the top of the front bumper. Mark |
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| Author: | 323F Rock [ Sun Nov 28, 2004 12:37 pm ] |
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underneath the headlights!!! if its anything like mine nathan |
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| Author: | Ronin (Adam) [ Sun Nov 28, 2004 1:34 pm ] |
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Thanks guys, I already guessed that but which side? or is there a connection for each light on each side? |
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| Author: | 323F Rock [ Sun Nov 28, 2004 5:37 pm ] |
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each side u will find the connectors for left side and right side nathan |
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| Author: | Roadster Robbie [ Fri Dec 03, 2004 9:43 pm ] |
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Right, front for lamp wiring as follows :- Blue wire to switch 12v feed from TNS relay (with airbags) or from headlight switch (without airbags) Blue/white wire from switch is the feed from switch to the lamps. The tell tail is also fed from this blue/white wire. The diagram I have also shows the switch connector having a red/black wire and a black/pink wire (without panel light control) or a red wire (with panel light control). The red/black wire is the 12v feed for the night time illumination and the black/pink is the earth or the red goes to earth via the dash reostat. There are 2, 2 pin connectors either side of the front bumper each with a blue/white wire and a black wire. The blue white wire is the 12v feed from the switch and the black is the earth for each lamp. I hope this helps, although you've probably sorted it all by now anyway Strange thing is, the lamps are not relay controlled
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| Author: | Ronin (Adam) [ Fri Dec 03, 2004 10:20 pm ] |
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Woah that is ace. Thankyou very much! 
It's very confusing tho.. Coming from the dash to my switch I have 2 BLUE wires and 2 RED wires. When I connect the two blue wires together I find that the dash light indicator comes on. Great I thought. Connecting the red wires, i find there is a current running thru them. I thought that these were supposed to illuminate the switch but this isn't happening. It's wierd because the bulb does not light up even tho I find there is a current going thru I disconnected the reds out of fear of the battery going flat
Do you have any pics of the diagram? thanks for your help! |
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| Author: | Roadster Robbie [ Fri Dec 03, 2004 11:17 pm ] |
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Were the wires in a 4 pin block connector, 2 up, 2 down  The wiring diagram won't photograph easily, it's spead accross 4 different pages Are you sure the wires arn't :-
Red Red/Black Blue/White Blue
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| Author: | Ronin (Adam) [ Fri Dec 03, 2004 11:22 pm ] |
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yes they were in a 4 pin connector. Don't quite know what you mean by 2 up 2 down. Where'd you get the diagram from? |
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| Author: | Roadster Robbie [ Fri Dec 03, 2004 11:24 pm ] |
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[quote="NINJAADAM39"]yes they were in a 4 pin connector. Don't quite know what you mean by 2 up 2 down. [color=red]Means they are arranged with 2 above the other with no spare ports in the connector[/color] Where'd you get the diagram from? [color=red]EBAY \:D/ [/color] [/quote] |
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| Author: | Ronin (Adam) [ Sat Dec 04, 2004 12:28 am ] |
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[quote="Roadster Robbie"] Red Red/Black Blue/White Blue [/quote] I think this is right. And it was 2 up 2 down. If I have the dash indicator working (and eventually the fog lights) do I need the other pair of wires? (apart from switch illumination- which doesn't seem to work anyway) |
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| Author: | Roadster Robbie [ Sat Dec 04, 2004 2:07 am ] |
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If you're not fussed about night time illumination you only need to swith the Blue to the Blue/White, the tell tail will work by doing that as well 
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| Author: | Ronin (Adam) [ Sat Dec 04, 2004 3:19 am ] |
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Wow you are a big help Robbie :mrgreen: It should very easy now I know for certain whats-what. I presume that when you mention tell tale you are referring to the F-FOG dash indicator... |
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| Author: | Roadster Robbie [ Sat Dec 04, 2004 10:58 am ] |
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Yep, the "tell tail" is the Green indicator on the instrement cluster Called as such because it is "telling tails" or "squeeling" on the front fogs
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| Author: | tucker101uk [ Sat Dec 04, 2004 6:14 pm ] |
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grassing up dobbing in letting on etc... etc.. :D:D
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| Author: | Roadster Robbie [ Sun Dec 05, 2004 9:52 pm ] |
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Snitching Informing Disclosing etc... etc...
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