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Author:  mojaec [ Sat May 13, 2017 7:36 pm ]
Post subject:  Original using of 5th (front speaker)

Hello everyone!

Please, can someone place here or link to adv prospects, or show at real photo original audio deck and 5th front speaker.

I remember, that in someone Hungary site was collected all of brochures by any countries. But now, I can't find it throuhg Google.

Thank you!

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Author:  Dark_Jon [ Sun May 14, 2017 9:04 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Original using of 5th (front speaker)

You can see it on the EPC, not sure how much help that is though:

http://mazdaepc.com/parts/323F/AEBM01/Y3/6682/

Author:  mojaec [ Sun May 14, 2017 10:03 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Original using of 5th (front speaker)

[quote="Dark_Jon"]You can see it on the EPC, not sure how much help that is though...[/quote]

Thank you, but it is not an answer. I search a real photo of factory carmusic system with 5 channel.

Author:  nafre [ Mon May 15, 2017 1:27 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Original using of 5th (front speaker)

[quote="mojaec"][quote="Dark_Jon"]You can see it on the EPC, not sure how much help that is though...[/quote]

Thank you, but it is not an answer. I search a real photo of factory carmusic system with 5 channel.[/quote]

I'd like to know this myself. Is it a 5 speaker system or what is the 5th for?

Author:  pitrack_1 [ Mon May 15, 2017 2:03 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Original using of 5th (front speaker)

As far as I know, there were different head units not only year-to-year/series-to-series and speclevel-to-level, but for market-to-market. This is my Oz spec standard head unit from 1994, the 5th speaker is a larger speaker in the middle of the dashboard, sort-of a bass unit, perhaps a subwoofer precursor. There was a CD unit that could be fitted, it went in the space underneath. There was a more upmarket spec head unit, again with a CD unit (I think a 6-CD stacker).
[img]http://i1222.photobucket.com/albums/dd490/pitrack_1/1994%20Mazda%20323%20Astina/centre_controls_zpsumfgw6kb.jpg[/img]

[b]Patrick[/b]

Author:  nafre [ Mon May 15, 2017 2:09 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Original using of 5th (front speaker)

[quote="pitrack_1"]As far as I know, there were different head units not only year-to-year/series-to-series and speclevel-to-level, but for market-to-market. This is my Oz spec standard head unit from 1994, the 5th speaker is a larger speaker in the middle of the dashboard, sort-of a bass unit, perhaps a subwoofer precursor. There was a CD unit that could be fitted, it went in the space underneath. There was a more upmarket spec head unit, again with a CD unit (I think a 6-CD stacker).
[img]http://i1222.photobucket.com/albums/dd490/pitrack_1/1994%20Mazda%20323%20Astina/centre_controls_zpsumfgw6kb.jpg[/img]

[b]Patrick[/b][/quote]

Even the air conditioning is different lol

Author:  SerenaJ [ Tue May 16, 2017 12:42 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Original using of 5th (front speaker)

In UK the post-Ford BAs were fitted with a Clarion ARB5070R.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Clarion-Contr ... rmvSB=true

But it doesn't look like the picture you posted :?

S

Author:  Dark_Jon [ Tue May 16, 2017 1:08 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Original using of 5th (front speaker)

These might help a bit:

http://www.astinagt.com/forums/showthread.php?t=8759

and

http://www.chipa.org/astina/323-BGBA-stereowiring.pdf

Seems there is one wire that goes from the back of the unit above (wire 2J) that goes to a separate amp somewhere under the dash, and that powers the centre speaker. So you might need more than just the head unit and speaker

Author:  mojaec [ Tue May 16, 2017 5:40 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Original using of 5th (front speaker)

[quote="Dark_Jon"]... a separate amp somewhere under the dash, and that powers the centre speaker...[/quote]
So, at mazda.epc we can find, that wiring for front speaker is ready on all version.
And we realy need one more powe amp, that will be work with this front channel.

Interesting, what multichannel sound was using in Japan at 1994-98?
And it can not be just a tape deck, but maybe using CD-changer.

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Author:  Rumpel [ Fri Jun 22, 2018 6:32 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Original using of 5th (front speaker)

There are some ways having the center speaker connected:

- The first and easiest way is generating a pseudo-center signal. Take the gnd from the left channel and + from the right channel. That's it.

- The second way (this is the way I connected my OEM center speaker) is using the center speaker control unit, which is in fact a small amp and a little circuit for generating a delay between the channels, which leads to a wider stereo effect.

- The 3rd way is getting your fingers on a (mostly) Type R Bose system. This brings a separate amp for the center and is controlled using the Bose head unit. Never heard the Lantis Bose system, so maybe it's like all Boses: No treble, no base, must be Bose :lol:

- The 4th way is using the original OEM Mazda (FMS) DSP unit, which also contains a 6x CD changer. Never seens it in reality, but the Japanese parts catalogs shows it and brochure, too.

Author:  Rumpel [ Fri Jun 22, 2018 6:58 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Original using of 5th (front speaker)

This is what the center looks fitted

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and the internals of the amp:

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