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Theres been a few threads recently about smoke coming from exhausts, mostly white smoke, or smoke on start up etc...

Water is a by-product of combustion. Put your hand over your tailpipe, it'll be damp after 5 seconds or so.
When warm air (eg-from your exhaust) meets cold air or a cold surface (your exhaust cooling down) it cools down and condenses (turns into water). This water will sit in your exhaust, coating the inner walls of your pipes and silencers until next time you run the car, then the collected water will heat up again, causing it to evaporate and exit the exhaust as steam.
Coupled with the cold mornings this warm steam will be further enhanced as it collides with the cold air after leaving the exhaust. Similar to your breath on a cold day. The colder it is, the more steam you'll get.

If you have a cylinder head gasket problem, and your burning coolant you will notice it. Your car will be running like shit, and your exhaust will be BELCHING white smoke. Your coolant bottle may also be smelling of exhaust fumes.

If you have blue smoke, then this is an oil burning problem.
On start up, when changing gear or on over-run, it could be your valve stem oil seals, oil seeps through them and down the valves into the combustion chambers, then burns with the fuel/air mixture.
If the piston rings are knackered, then the engine will smoke blue when you plant your foot down.

Black sooty smoke usually means rich running, too much fuel in the air/fuel mixture.

If your car is on fire, then theres a good chance this will cause smoking too. You should definately notice this, and its usually coupled with extreme heat and some swearing!!! :wink:

[b]Please eliminate all these possibilities before posting a new thread about your smoke problems.[/b] :thumbleft:


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a good post neil, but you still haven't told us where to get the zxi spleaters from?

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Matt, you've been a member here since 2004.
You should know that its spleeters, not spleaters..... :roll:


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what should i do if my car is on fire?

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[quote="Murray"]what should i do if my car is on fire?[/quote]

Get out. Quickly. :wink:


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[quote="Neil F"]Matt, you've been a member here since 2004.
You should know that its spleeters, not spleaters..... :roll:[/quote]

Actually, it has 3 'e's... SPLEEETER

Good idea for a thread though, it's getting a little boring reading the same thing time and time again.

Incidentally, I've noticed my mouth smoking when it's cold outside... is this normal?

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This is a very informative thread! Should reduce the amount of questions being asked about smokey exhausts...

[quote="Neil F"]If your car is on fire, then theres a good chance this will cause smoking too. You should definately notice this, and its usually coupled with extreme heat and some swearing!!! [/quote]

So... what you are saying is: get out the car, have a cigarette, stand back and swear at it a few times?

Adam, you know that the hot bit goes on the outside right? :lol:


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lol. I've experienced all of them. The last one not so funny. :lol:


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[quote="errnee"]Sticky, Sticky, Sticky :thumbright:[/quote]

is that what you've been smoking...or just a suggestion? :thumbleft:

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[quote="marcrs"][quote="errnee"]Sticky, Sticky, Sticky :thumbright:[/quote]

is that what you've been smoking...or just a suggestion? :thumbleft:[/quote]

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valve stem oil seals - where are these located???


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[quote="ziggy323f"]valve stem oil seals - where are these located???[/quote]

"you blown a seal mate?" - "nah, just a bit of frost on my top lip..."

sorry, couldn't help it, been a long day... :wink:

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[quote="Hull_BA"]
Incidentally, I've noticed my mouth smoking when it's cold outside... is this normal?

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lol. stuff a mechanic...ask a doctor..

could also be a eye brow seal on its way out.

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Excellent post Neil.

[quote="ziggy323f"]valve stem oil seals - where are these located???[/quote]

[img]http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/ee131/ryanincontrol/untitled.jpg[/img]

That's 8 for the inlet and 8 for the exhaust (For 1.5 and 1.8 engines).
Be warned as they look exactly the same and its not hard to swap them around.
if I remember correctly the only difference are the exhaust ones have tougher material or something on them than the inlet ones.


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[quote="ziggy323f"]valve stem oil seals - where are these located???[/quote]

on the valve stems :lol:

Cylinder head off job if I'm correct, if not I will soon be put in place no doubt :tongue:


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[quote="errnee"]Sticky, Sticky, Sticky :thumbright:[/quote]

Hmmm.... tricky one that, I've never experienced a sticky exhaust.... :laughing6:


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Mine's crusty... deposits have been accumlating right on the end for months... ain't washed it since the York meet!
Suppose I should give it a good scrub really!

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your mouth or the car? hehe


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haha.... funny stuff.... :lol:


Good thread Neil F :thumbright:


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Bumpety bump.... :wink:


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i always thought smoke was caused by worn out exhaust bearings.............

you can fix it by fitting cross drilled brakelines and high octane headlight fluid...................


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[quote="Murray"]what should i do if my car is on fire?[/quote]

Phone Lloyds quickly, and make sure it's insured !!! :lol:

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Well, it seems to be that time of year again...... :laughing6:

Now a sticky. :wink:


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[quote="Neil F"]If your car is on fire, then theres a good chance this will cause smoking too. You should definately notice this, and its usually coupled with extreme heat and some swearing!!! :wink:

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Hahaahaaahahhaa, thats priceless... lmfao... :lol: :lol:

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[quote="Neil F"]Well, it seems to be that time of year again...... :laughing6:

Now a sticky. :wink:[/quote]

Good job sir :thumbright:


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:evil4: Mines 24/7 burns oil every time, but as its soo cold its like a cloud :lol:


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[quote="Anothersucker4a323f"][quote="ziggy323f"]valve stem oil seals - where are these located???[/quote]

on the valve stems :lol:

Cylinder head off job if I'm correct, if not I will soon be put in place no doubt :tongue:[/quote]

You're not correct. Go to your place!

You can use compressed air or nylon rope down the spark plug hole to hold the valve up while you change the stem seals.

Much easier doing it with the head off but not as much hassle as removing the head.


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think my prob is solved now....was some water under the exhaust after i got mum to start it and take a look(she said its the most healthy engine smoke shes ever seen, i'm guessing she means its condensation then lol)

the water didn't smell either


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the water didn't smell either[/quote]

At least now you know nothings pissin on your car aswell innit! :lol:


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