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HMC
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 07, 2018 11:22 am 
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Hi all,

I have a 323F BJ (one of the early ones) with the 1.5 engine. It has at the moment 311k kms on it (or about 193k miles) and I need a new clutch and related parts. But I can't find a clutch alignment tool. Does anybody know where I can source one?

And is that really necessary? I see some people posting that is doable without the tool.

An universal alignment tool will do the job just fine?

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pitrack_1
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 07, 2018 1:52 pm 
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Hi HMC,

I haven't changed a clutch myself but I was of the understanding that (generally) when you buy a clutch kit (clutch + associated components) it will come with the appropriate alignment tool.

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 07, 2018 4:06 pm 
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I will most likely buy it online because it's cheaper, but usually does not come with the tool on websites like Autodoc or similar. I can buy one universal on ebay relatively cheap, if that works, but I'm not sure.


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PostPosted: Sun Oct 07, 2018 5:50 pm 
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These are only examples and I know these are in Oz and not for 1.5l engines which we didn't ahve here. But as examples I'm sure you will find similar for your make & model, at similar if not better prices as your market (EU) is bigger.

Exedy Clutch kit inc. tool $AUD148.10 = 90.5EUR approx (note cheaper kits are listed too)

Exedy clutch alignment tool $AUD15 = 9.2EUR approx (but plus postage in this case)

Universal clutch alignment kit $AUD23 = 14.1EUR approx (and that includes delivery)

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HMC
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 08, 2018 4:34 pm 
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I can find better prices than that but none comes with the tool.

I think I'll go for one universal and hope for the best :p


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 08, 2018 5:19 pm 
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HMC wrote:
I think I'll go for one universal and hope for the best :p


Haven't done it on a BJ but an my dad's VW we used a universal one as follows: take the biggest centre stub that goes in the clutch centre plate and if it's too loose then make it bigger by wrapping tape around it until it's a snug fit. (Do this before installing the clutch.)
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HMC
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 08, 2018 6:39 pm 
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jinglebells wrote:
Haven't done it on a BJ but an my dad's VW we used a universal one as follows: take the biggest centre stub that goes in the clutch centre plate and if it's too loose then make it bigger by wrapping tape around it until it's a snug fit. (Do this before installing the clutch.)
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Will try that ;)


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HughieW
 Post subject: Re: clutch
PostPosted: Tue Oct 09, 2018 10:49 am 
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I've done a few clutches, and never even touched a clutch alignment tool :evil4:

It's fiddly as hell doing it without, but it's totally possible :thumbleft: You just need to hold the friction disc and LOOSELY fit the pressure plate, so it holds the friction disc but you can move it around with your fingers or a screwdriver, then line it up as best you can with the flywheel bearing, then wriggle the gearbox when you're fitting it :thumbleft:

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HMC
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 09, 2018 11:59 am 
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HughieW wrote:
I've done a few clutches, and never even touched a clutch alignment tool :evil4:

It's fiddly as hell doing it without, but it's totally possible :thumbleft: You just need to hold the friction disc and LOOSELY fit the pressure plate, so it holds the friction disc but you can move it around with your fingers or a screwdriver, then line it up as best you can with the flywheel bearing, then wriggle the gearbox when you're fitting it :thumbleft:


That's what I imagined it would be like without the tool :lol:


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HMC
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 19, 2018 7:07 pm 
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Clutch and main seal have now been changed. But now the biting point of the clutch is way too low, almost canĀ“t get it into and out of gears. Oil, master and slave cylinders seem fine. Does the pedal need some kind of adjustment? How can I do that? See picture below.

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Also I have loads of free play on the pedal, as you can see here:

https://imgur.com/AJIH9AN


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 19, 2018 7:30 pm 
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Hi
Is that an adjustment bolt in the picture? I haven't done a BJ, but in my BA I could adjust the pedal, with a bolt just like that one.
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HMC
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 19, 2018 8:12 pm 
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It has 2 or 3 nuts, so it should be adjustable. But not sure how, don't want to mess it up even more :lol:


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HughieW
 Post subject: Re: clutch
PostPosted: Tue Nov 20, 2018 9:58 am 
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I'm not sure about the BJ either, so can't offer help there, but try re-bleeding the clutch! If you've messed with hydraulics, chances are there's air in the system!

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