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jinglebells
PostPosted: Sun Jan 29, 2017 8:18 pm 
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About a year ago Autotrader had about 70 323s for sale. I've watched it go down, and today, it's down to just 26.

What on earth happened?
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HMT
PostPosted: Sun Jan 29, 2017 9:40 pm 
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I would assume to the wreckers...


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maZZda
PostPosted: Mon Jan 30, 2017 10:36 am 
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As i said before, they are all here (exept the ones in junkyards) :lol: :lol:


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SerenaJ
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Probably to the scrappers, most of them. Which is why I'm grabbing parts as often as I find them, particularly Mazda branded bits such as the rear plastic strip, which as far I'm aware are no longer replaceable from Mazda (and certainly not found at your average parts store).

According to the "How many left" website (which relies on registration data), GXi numbers are dropping by about 300 per quarter. In the 3rd quarter of 2016 there were only 2650 registered and 413 SORN. At this rate, in a couple of years we're looking at hardly any left on the road.

So here's hoping Sundance passes the MOT in March! :shock:

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Hmm, still 2,650 of mine. https://www.howmanyleft.co.uk/vehicle/mazda_323f_gxi

Don't know how much longer she'll be about though. :oops:

Only 107 of my BMW though! :shock: https://www.howmanyleft.co.uk/vehicle/b ... rt_touring
Which is ironic given how many 3 series there are on the road!

And 295 of my particular rx-8 https://www.howmanyleft.co.uk/vehicle/mazda_rx-8_evolve

So the 323F is my most commonly occurring car :lol:

maZZda wrote:
As i said before, they are all here (exept the ones in junkyards) :lol: :lol:


Probs quite true that :badgrin:


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Dark_Jon
PostPosted: Wed Feb 01, 2017 1:23 am 
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I think they're getting to that stage of being old cars but pre-classic, so most will just be scrapped or begun to be broken for spares as parts become scarce.

The ZXi is down to 145 :(

My bike is down to 84 left (and that's a 2001 not some old '70's rarity!) and my van is down to..... 17!!?!?! :lol:


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jinglebells
PostPosted: Sat May 06, 2017 6:30 pm 
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Today there are 29

... and that includes 3 BG's !!


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jinglebells
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jinglebells wrote:
Today there are 29

... and that includes 3 BG's !!


... and today there are only 18 of the 323s on Autotrader! This is disastrous!


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HMT
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Similar here in Germany. The market for these cars is very small.
Only very rarely someone is really looking for a 323 as a collectible.

Mazda is also not really helping with their policy on old cars and people over here are mainly focussing on german, italian, french and (even) british (!) :D classic cars before they are looking at japanese ones. And even then, there are Toyota, Honda and Nissan before people think about Mazda.
The few sad examples that are still on the market are mostly used up cheap beaters that have been used by poor people or people that just dont care about their cars and therefore have not been looked after for the last 10 years...
This also means that you can pick up some gems foe peanuts but you will have to put serious work into them. Also, material quality and rust do not help...


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pitrack_1
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HMT wrote:
Similar here in Germany. The market for these cars is very small.
Only very rarely someone is really looking for a 323 as a collectible.

Mazda is also not really helping with their policy on old cars and people over here are mainly focussing on german, italian, french and (even) british (!) :D classic cars before they are looking at japanese ones. And even then, there are Toyota, Honda and Nissan before people think about Mazda.
The few sad examples that are still on the market are mostly used up cheap beaters that have been used by poor people or people that just dont care about their cars and therefore have not been looked after for the last 10 years...
This also means that you can pick up some gems foe peanuts but you will have to put serious work into them. Also, material quality and rust do not help...



Hi,

I was about to ask this question, or make exactly the same point because I had been thinking about it today. The situation is similar in Australia, albeit with more cars surviving (or potentially surviving) due to rust not being such an issue.

People here also focus on the Australian, British, and Euros before the Japanese, with a few exceptions. This is because, in older cars, people are looking for more 'character' than reliability and are prepared to put up with the foibles the new car crowd won't. The Ford Escort (70's) market has gone crazy over here. not because it was a great small car at the time, but because it is seen as a 'fun' car now due to its innate good handling plus spares availability.

So some Japanese cars with character or panache that have followings (60's-70's-80's) comprise such things as the Datsun 1600, Mazda rotaries, Datsun 240Z, Toyota Celicas, Honda Civics, Toyota Land Cruisers, Subaru Brumby.

Others I see being classics into the future include the Mazda 121 'bubble car,' Mazda RX-7, RX-8, more Toyota Celicas (esp. GT-4), Honda Prelude, Nissan 200SX, Subaru WRX. And of course the MX-5 which gave us everything the MGB promised plus reliability and build quality.

So in Oz people do think of Mazda before other Japanese makes due mainly to the rotaries.

However the 323/Astina/Lantis/BA is not much more than a slightly upmarket 5-door hatch. It's not really outstanding in character, or performance, or handling. As a result it retains a level of anonymity that means it is unlikely to be sought after and therefore will basically disappear, apart from maybe one or two isolated example that happen to survive.

In Oz the situation is more hopeful simply because lack of rust will mean more examples survive both as running cars and as parts donors. The innate reliability and robustness, along with the fact it was not seen as a 'family hack' nor sen now as a 'boy racer' plus with seemingly quite a few cossetted examples out there will stand the model in good stead into the future.

If I manage to hang on to mine for only 6 more years (from January) it will be eligible for Oz "historic car" plates (30+ years old)

Patrick


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HMT
PostPosted: Sat Dec 09, 2017 1:58 pm 
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Well, the last point is actually also what i am aiming for.
With regulations for new cars going crazy and the "electric revolution" around the corner i really am aiming to steer my BA towards historic plates as well, mostly because at least for now historic cars are excluded from some restrictions and i expect quite a lot of restrictions for fossil fuel cars popping up once the german car industry has their electric cars ready since the government is really pushing them at the moment...


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120 ZXi's left, plus 105 SORN'd :doubt:

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